Obama and socialism

November 1, 2008 Categories: Politics | 17 Comments  

I know I said I was done posting about politics, but I just read this post at Little Blue School, and I can’t help but quote:

If you enjoy having weekends off, thank a socialist.
If you appreciate the eight-hour work day, thank a socialist.
If you approve of minimum wage, thank a socialist.

If you like living in a country where it’s illegal to sell your child to a sweatshop for a dollar a week, you can be thankful that socialists, yes those are anti-capitalist, anti-free-market socialists, worked hard in the face of big business and government opposition to make that happen.


I keep hearing, “I enjoy living in a capitalist country and I want to keep it that way! Don’t you take my capitalism away from me!” Sister, you don’t live in a capitalist country. Sorry. That has already been taken away from you. Along with children working in mines, tenements made out of cardboard, and unregulated air pollution. Do you miss all that? Is it just killing you that the terrible socialists with their wealth redistribution gave Medicaid to babies in poverty? After all, they didn’t earn it. Their mothers couldn’t afford it. In your sparkling, elegant capitalist society, they wouldn’t have it. You want to be in charge of spending your own money, not giving it to the government to redistribute to the poor! Do you wish we could go back to a time when generous churches and noble private citizens were responsible for picking up the tab for those babies? Because you know what? They didn’t. Read about it. It was ugly.

I’ve seen so many posts lately saying that Obama wants to take money from people who work hard and give it to people who are lazy and don’t work. Why is it assumed that all of the people living in poverty are lazy and refuse to work? Yes, some are. But some are elderly, some are disabled, some are a product of an upbringing that didn’t provide the same chance at success as the luckier of us have had, some work very hard and still barely put food on the table, let alone be able to afford health care.

I have to admit that the past few days, I’ve wanted to avoid reading blogs, avoid people’s posts on Facebook, and avoid checking my e-mail. I’ve received e-mails that go way beyond accusing Obama of being a socialist or a Muslim. I received one that said he’s the anti-christ. I’ve had people accuse me of not considering my vote, not praying about it. I’ve had people tell me I couldn’t possibly be a Christian. I’ve watched my blog stats go down since I posted my intent to vote for Obama. And I. am. so. tired. And hurt.

My best friend voted for McCain, and I am so glad she was able to come to a decision about the election that she is satisfied with. I would never question her decision, or accuse her of not thinking it through. We were talking about it on Friday, about how we know that no matter who wins, that person is still a human being, a politician, and we can only pray that he will make the right decisions. I have gone into this election with my eyes and mind open for the first time in my life. I have agonized and prayed and talked about this election more than any other election, way more than I ever did when I just lined up with my party and voted their way. And I’m frankly pissed that people would accuse me of making this decision lightly.

(On a side note, I am completely aware of how blessed I am to have a gift of a best friend. Our friendship doesn’t rely on us agreeing on every issue, and I didn’t have to worry about telling her I was voting for Obama. Michelle is awesome, and I’m cheering her on this month as she takes part in NaNoWriMo. So if you’re reading this and you haven’t got your word count in for the day, get writing! :) )

Anyway. I’m not going to promise this will be my last political post, because one of the reasons I started my blog was so that I have a place to vent. And I needed to vent today. So, if you’ve made it to the end of this post, thanks for listening.


  1. Wrighty

    Excellent post! And an excellent quote. I feel exactly the same way. I have paid more attention to this election than any other in my lifetime. There is too much at stake and I want a good future for myself and my children. I am also leaning toward Obama. I’ve tried not to let other opinions sway my vote. On the other hand, I do respect McCain although I don’t agree with as much of his politics. If he is elected I will still support him. Whoever gets elected will be OUR president and I hope he will do the best job he can do for us. I will always respect and support the office although I may not care for the person. And I will always respect and support our country. It’s the very best place to live in the whole world. I want it to stay that way.

  2. Andrea

    You’re welcome. :)

    And why is socialism tossed around like a dirty word? I’m Canadian and we’re far more socialist up here. We don’t seem to have huge issues with lazy bums working off the hard earned money of the rich (irony and sarcasm there).

    All I know is, if a family like yours were transplanted here, you’d have little worries about health care (at least how to pay for it), the minimum wage you’d get is higher, and you’d even get a check every month just because you have X number of kids and make under Y amount. All for what I figure is the same amount of taxes.

    And I’m stumped as to why people think that’s a bad thing. :)


    The only other thing about this whole election stuff is the people who *aren’t* thinking about who they are voting for. Picking one candidate over the other because one of them ticked them off, or some silly rumour that can be discredited in a 15 minute google check.

  3. Kim

    God Bless you! I have to lie to my other Christian friends about who I am voting for; mostly I just don’t *say*, and they assume I am voting for McCain because I am pro-life. But I also have a developmentally disabled 20yo son and we will be signing up for Medicaid now that he is not a full time student and not employable.

  4. Lydia

    Don’t be hurt by people getting mad at you. They’re scared, they’re insecure, they’re worried, they don’t really mean it. You’re awesome, don’t worry about it. :) It’ll all be over soon and then we can go back to contemplating how best to teach our children Latin.

    I am not sure why people are so afraid, I’m really not. I wish I understood better, but I’m pretty clear on the fact that socialism and terrorism and infanticide are just fog around the race issue. Sad but I am suspicious that it’s true. It will all eventually change, and I’m glad Obama is willing to be that first pioneer to take all the smears and awfulness in order to change the definition of what’s possible. :)

  5. floridamom

    Great post! I’ve already voted — for Obama of course.

  6. Ron

    I’m not a big fan of taxation, but my primary objection to it is how it is spent. Since taxation isn’t a choice I have, the first 3 things I feel taxes should be spent on are

    1- Elderly
    2- Poor
    3- Health care

    “A pure and undefiled religion before God the Father is this, to visit the widow and orphan in their affliction…”

    Christianity is not about the wealthy keeping their money and it’s not about the type of government we livce under. And a country which is 100% socialist does not prevent a Christian from bearing the fruit of the Spirit. So, we (Christians) should keep our priorities straight.

    Fantastic post :)

  7. Cynthia


    Thanks for stopping by my blog and commenting. This election year has been a rough ride. My husband keeps saying it will be over on Tuesday; I hope so.

    I officially exposed myself to my homeschool co-op last week when I confronted a video that was forwarded. Supposedly non-partisan, supposedly just encouraging people to vote, it sent one to a site that was decidedly anti-Obama. There has been no obvious backlash there though I am sure that there is lots being said behind my back.

    This is actually the first election I feel that I am voting in … because this is the first election that I haven’t been influenced by fear or by a group telling me how I should vote. This is the first time that I have really educated MYSELF.

    My 22 yod has made a policy to not discuss her vote at all. But even then, she gets snide remarks that she must be voting for the wrong person if she doesn’t want to discuss it. It’s all so sad how Christians will attack each other like this. It is not our vote that divides us but the way that we treat each other. It is my prayer that I will remain full of grace, love and mercy even in the face of the accusations I have already faced; I am sure there are more to come.

    Grace and Peace,


  8. carrie

    Wrighty – I agree, I respect McCain for his service to our country and especially the integrity and amazing courage he displayed as a POW. But. I don’t agree with some of his politics – and it came down to making a list and seeing which candidate’s views more closely lined up with mine.

    Andrea – Okay, now you’ve got Kevin wanting to emigrate. Any houses for sale near you? ;)

    Kim – How sad to be put in that position that you can’t talk politics with your Christian friends without being afraid of persecution. Your story about your son is one of the main reasons I get so angry when I hear people say, “Obama wants to tax the rich people who work hard and give it to lazy people who don’t want to work.”

    Lydia – I hope you’re wrong about the race thing. I’d like to think that our country has come so far beyond that, but maybe you’re right. Sad.

    Floridamom – thanks. :)

    Ron – I agree – I’ve been trying to think of that verse for days now as I’ve become so frustrated with people who say that capitalism is the biblical economic system.

    Cynthia – It’s hard, isn’t it? I’ve had to really check myself, turn off the computer, calm myself down at times. And since my daughter reads my blog, she’s seen some of the more nasty comments and she doesn’t understand why Christians would treat other Christians that way. Not easy to explain to an 11yo.

  9. M Light

    Sigh. If we are commanded to love our enemies, then we certainly should be able to love our friends who just vote differently.

    I missed the post where you said whom you were voting for – we were on vacation. I never did mention that I really appreciated your September 3 post. Although I’m registered as Independent, I’ve tended to vote Republican in the presidential elections (and increasingly more Democratic as the elections get closer to home – Governor, etc.). I voted for Bush over Kerry because I thought he’d do better with Iraq. Now, I’m not really sure that was the case.

    My 16 yo daughter and I have been watching this election very closely. She’s more liberal than I am, but we both thought that McCain and Obama were fairly good choices for each party. I agree with some of what each one says; I disagree with some of what each one says. Daughter and I agreed it would all come down to McCain’s choice for VP.

    Palin may have turned out to be a good national politician, given more experience. I think he did her a disservice by picking her this early in her career. But I can’t see her, in any way, as the VP for a president who has had major health problems.

    So, for the first time since I voted for Reagan, in my very first election, I’m voting for the Democratic candidate for President. My mother wasn’t thrilled (though she won’t hold it against me). My neighbors think it’s great.

    I admire you for blogging about it. I’ve pretty much ignored the election, blog-wise. I read so much vitriol on other blogs that, not only do I not want to get into it on my own, I also don’t trust myself to not go overboard in reaction.

    Although, after reading a number of vitriolic blogs this evening, I was tempted to post the song “You’ve Got to Be Carefully Taught” from “South Pacific:” “You’ve got to be carefully taught to hate…”

    I did a Howard Gardner Eight Intelligences Quiz instead.

  10. Sarah at themommylogues

    Had to leave you a link. I think you’ll enjoy it! :)

  11. Alyce

    I’m so glad that you posted this, I found it really encouraging this morning. Most of my relatives and all of the people at church just assume that I voted for McCain because I’m a Christian, and I usually don’t set them straight (I voted for Obama) because I don’t enjoy being lectured. Even worse are the hateful emails filled with baseless rhetoric about Obama that my Christian friends and relatives forward to me, assuming that I’ll agree with them.

    I know that our church wants to get behind a candidate that supports pro-life issues, but I have a hard time voting for a candidate if that’s really the only reason I’m voting for him/her. I think it’s irresponsible to ignore the other issues in our country.

    I don’t normally comment on political posts, but I just had to say thank you and vent a little bit too.

  12. carrie

    M Light – I can understand wanting to not just post about the election. When I have received some of my nastier responses, I almost wish I hadn’t either.

    Alyce – Thanks. :)

  13. Carrie

    Carrie, It is 6:30pm the night before the election and I am torn. I can’t decide if I want to vote for Obama or if I want to stick with Mike Huckabee. So, I’m there with you my dear and I think you are brave to speak up for yourself. *hugs*

  14. carrie

    Carrie – I know how you feel! thanks for the hugs and kind comments. I hope you come to a decision that will give you some peace.

  15. This Little Piggy

    Sending HUGS! :o )

    Moving to Canada is sounding pretty good to me!

  16. Ron

    Carrie, I forgot to mention that the verse is James 1:27.

  17. Carrie

    So, I’m back. I did not vote for Obama…I voted for the person who best represented me. Because I re-read what I learned a long time ago…that we are given the freedom to vote in order to pick the person who will be represent my personal opinions and beliefs. However, I think President Elect Obama will do wonderfully in office.