Mixed feelings

October 16, 2006 Categories: Rants , Faith |  

About this past Friday’s women’s overnighter. All in all, I would say I had a good time. There was good teaching, good fellowship, and oh, the food… I also enjoyed leading worship, although doing three complete worship services in less than 24 hours is absolutely exhausting. I came home completely wiped out Saturday afternoon.

Before I can explain the mixed feelings, I have to back up and vent a little bit about this year’s women’s Bible study. Weekly Bible study has been my refuge since we moved here 9 years ago. When I had four under 5-years, I especially relished the time spent with other women and my children safely in the nursery being looked after. I did everything I could to make sure we were there most weeks, in spite of the challenges of getting four little ones ready and out the door by 8:45 a.m.

When we made our decision to leave our old church, I knew I would continue to attend the women’s study. It meets in a woman’s home - not at the church - and there are other ladies from different churches who also attend. It was a comfort to know that, in the midst of all these changes, I could keep this support group. There were some awkward questions about why we had left the church, but those had all passed by the time we broke for the summer. I spent the summer missing the ladies from study and looking forward to starting up again.

Then we started study this fall. The group of women tends to change some each year, as there are usually two studies offered, meeting in different homes. This year the choices were a study on being a godly wife, and a study on the book of Matthew. I chose the Matthew study - cause I’m already a perfect wife, right? Just kidding. Even though the marriage study was a repeat from five years ago, I figured I could use a refresher course. Plus, the teacher happens to be one of my best friends from that church, and this way I can actually see her in person once a week instead of relying on the weekly phone calls that we cram into our schedules.

This year, we have a few new ladies. They are not new to the church, but this is the first year they have committed to Bible study. And for some reason, they have no idea how to behave in a group study. I am not exaggerating! Let me give you a brief play-by-play of last week, and you’ll see what I mean:

I dropped the kids off at the nursery (we have two lovely girls - one currently homeschooled and one a homeschool graduate - who watch our children) at 8:45. Two of these ladies were dropping their kids off at the same time. I headed to the house where study was held. I got there at ten to 9, plenty of time to set up my keyboard and visit for a few minutes. I fully expected these ladies to be right behind me, but when their friend arrived she announced that they had decided to make a latte run before heading to study.

At 9, study begins. At 9:10, the two latte ladies arrive. Now, if they would quietly slip into seats so as not to disturb what was going on, everything would be fine. But, no, they have to make an entrance.

“Ooo, your baby’s getting so big - and where did you get that adorable purse? I need one of those!”

“Sorry we’re late! Had to have our caffeine fix, you know!”

At this point, Terry (my friend and the teacher) tried to get everyone back on task. She continued on with announcements, prayer, and discussion of last weeks’ homework. During this time, not one, not two, but three different cell phones ring. And none of the cell phones have typical rings - one actually tweets like a bird. And do you think they turned them off quickly and ignored them? Oh, no, they answered them! There was even a phone conversation going on while Terry prayed.

Study continued, interrupted often by the ring-leader of this group of ladies, who likes to be the center of attention. Now don’t get me wrong, this isn’t the kind of study where Terry talks and the rest of us just sit quietly and listen. Interaction is encouraged and everyone feels free to give input. But this particular woman’s comments are almost always completely off topic. At one point, in the middle of the study, she actually asked the hostess about her curtains!

Before study was over, we had several more phone calls, all of them answered. Now, I understand the need for mothers to be reachable when their children are somewhere else. The ladies in the nursery have the phone number at the home we meet in and they have a phone right in the nursery. So it’s not like there’s no way we can be reached in case of emergency. So why can’t these ladies turn their phones off for the two hours of study? They’re not doctors or surgeons or police officers. They don’t have jobs outside the home that require them to be “on call”.

I went home from study feeling like my place of refuge had been completely violated. I talked to Terry afterwards, and she mentioned that she had specifically prayed for there to be no distractions this morning. The lesson was on truly leaving all - including our self-centered-ness - to cleave to our husbands. A necessary teaching - one that impacted our marriage in huge ways last time we did this study. (Another story for another day, if you’re interested.) But no one got much out of study, because it was interrupted at least a dozen times by either cell phones or off-topic remarks or side conversations.

Fast-forward to Friday afternoon. Terry and I and the two other ladies in charge of the women’s overnighter are praying. Terry mentions that the same group of ladies will be attending, and that she plans to make a request at the beginning of the first session that all cell phones be either turned off or turned to vibrate, and that there be no side conversations going on that would distract from what was going on. During free time and craft time and at night, cell phones were fine - just not during the session time.

There was some good-natured complaining, but all of the ladies turned their phones to vibrate, and I thought we were off to a good start. But the center-of-attention lady still manages to be loud and make lots of comments that keep people from concentrating. We had lots of visiting time and some fun ice-breakers, but every time we tried to come back to the more serious teaching and testimony time, she could not get settled down. I seriously felt like we were dealing with my 7-year-old. Then, in the middle of one woman’s beautiful testimony of how her life changed because of grace (our theme was Grace-filled Living), center-of-attention jumped up and announced that she had to leave. Apparently her husband had been calling her over and over again (she had left the room to answer her vibrating phone a couple times) and that he was having trouble getting their youngest to bed and he wanted her to come home. I felt sorry for her (and very grateful for my husband, who has never asked me to come home early from a women’s retreat, even when the kids were sick), but she basically threw a fit, disrupting the entire time. She threw her notebook down on a table, and stomped into the kitchen, gathering her things. Her phone again rang, and she answered it in the hallway right next to where we were meeting. We could hear the entire conversation as she basically yelled at her husband. She then stomped back into the room announcing that she couldn’t find her keys. After about 20 minutes of this, she finally left.

I am trying so hard not to be judgmental about her, but this woman is a Christian. She has been for several years. Last week at Bible study she announced that she and her husband will be going into full-time missions work in Quito, Ecuador next year. And all I can think is, “Oh. my. gosh.” Am I just being critical? Am I too picky - do I need to just let things go? Cause I am beginning to dread Bible study and get resentful.

I feel so sorry for Terry, as she has tried the whole “subtle cues” route to let this woman know that she is disrupting things, but she is just not picking up these cues. This leaves Terry having to address the situation head-on, which is not her favorite thing to do. (I don’t know anyone who truly loves confrontation, do you?)

Every week I have prayed for forgiveness over my attitude about these women, and the one in particular, but every week the same things keep happening and my resentment comes back. I don’t want to give up Bible study, but I also don’t want to keep going somewhere that makes me so angry.

I have to say the rest of the overnighter was much more pleasant. Without their “ring-leader,” the rest of these women are pleasant and fun to be around. I think many ladies were ministered to by the testimonies given and the teaching that Terry prepared. I know that is what counts. But what do I do with these feelings of resentment? Any advice would be appreciated.

13 Comments

  1. Andrea (admin)

    Umm… slight ADD on her part? I know I’ve been the disruptive off-track, loud one at times, but not that bad. IME, someone needs to say something direct, not subtle.

  2. Karen

    I agree that this person probably needs to be approached directly, with gentleness.

    I have to say though… I wish I had this problem. I’d love to meet with a group of other women for study, even if we did have distractions.

  3. Randi

    I think that prayer for the person him whom you are struggling would be a great place to start. This always helps me to get my focus off of myself and onto God and what He might want in the situation. He may even lead you to say something to the women since they are obviously being distracting to everyone. Maybe having everyone turn off cell phones and mentioning that “hanging out” time is after the study would be helpful. And if this is said to everyone in the bible study, maybe no one will be offended.

    This will work out, Carrie, it is just a matter of walking through it!

    (((HUGS)))

  4. Lyn

    No really advice. But I can relate to the cell phone thing. People just don’t have manners with them! And it can be very disrupting. And rude.

  5. Carol in Oregon

    Carrie, this is outrageous. Talking on the cell phone during prayer and not leaving the room is ridiculous. Can I quote a few sentences from this in a blog post I’m writing (in my brain) and give you credit?

    This is on my mind from my recent trip and the cell phone situation in the airport. People seem to think that we all WANT to hear all the banality and muck of their lives.

    When I’m upset about other people’s rudeness one thing that helps me is to pray and ask God to show me where I’m rude and totally blind to it. He is faithful to do that and it helps to realize that sometimes folks just do not know that they are rude.

    Case in point: once I taught a homeschool coop class and a gal put her head on the desk. I asked her to please hold her head up. Her response was a “Why?” but devoid of surliness or sourness. “Because it’s rude to act like you are not interested,” I replied in a very even voice. I truly wasn’t offended and she acted like I had just told her something new.

  6. carrie

    Andrea - Yes, I actually do think ADD is an issue. It’s not so much the distractability that is driving me crazy - it’s the idea that she craves attention and does whatever she can to be the center of it. I can be a little distracted at times, too, and I definitely like to talk, but at some point you have to know when to quit - know what I mean?

    Karen - thank you for reminding me that I have a lot to be grateful for in just having this group of ladies to meet with. I hope you can find a similar thing in your life - maybe without so much distraction! ;)

    Randi - Yes, I believe the teacher is going to mention something at the beginning about the cell phone issue. I know that will help with a lot of it. Thanks for the hugs!

    Lyn - Amen, Sister!

    Carol - feel free to quote me. And I will definitely be praying - I’d hate to think that I was being rude to someone and not aware of it!

  7. Ron

    Perhaps Quito, Ecuador may be something designed to take some of the rough edges off. We never know.

  8. carrie

    Ron - you may be right. I have a tendency to be a little judgmental -maybe God’s using her to teach me something, too! Just wish it didn’t come so hard.

  9. Kev

    I can only think that God is trying to teach you patience.
    This lady needs to learn some manners. If I had been praying and she had started a phone call or conversation right in the middle of it - I would have stopped and looked right at her, glaring, and asked her very rudely to stop it or take it elsewhere. I might have even said “Do you mind?!?”. I would have probably been very sarcastic and rude about it.
    And I hate confrontation!
    I’m not suggesting you take these steps… in fact, I’m not a people person, so my way probably isn’t the best :-)

    Good luck.

  10. carrie

    Kev - not sure I could do that - although the thought did enter my head, even though I wasn’t the one praying. Yes, my patience is definitely being tested, that’s for sure!

  11. Kev

    God will give you strength to deal with these people.
    It may not be fun - but you and your group will learn from the experience.

  12. Shari

    Carrie, I’d be willing to bet that what you’re dealing with here is a difference in expectations. What you see as Bible study, one or more of these women may see as a care group. And there are some care groups whose primary purpose is the care and nurture of the members (versus, say, serious Bible study). The woman you’re talking about sounds like she’s having a hard time, struggling with the needs of a young child and a husband who may not be very helpful. If she’s feeling overwhelmed (and as a mother of young children, I do understand this) and perhaps struggling in her marriage, then survival, and not manners, may be her top priority right now. Perhaps the leader of your group could facilitate a discussion at your next meeting, in which members talk about what they are hoping to get out of the group (you might say knowledge of the Bible, the other woman might say connecting with other women). Getting everyone’s hopes and expectations out on the table might be very enlightening. Good luck!

  13. carrie

    Kev - I’m sure you’re right!

    Shari - thanks for your thoughts. If this was a new group I might think this was the problem. But this has been a consistent Bible study for over 5 years now. At the beginning of each year we have an intro time when the group goals are explained and what each meeting will be like: prayer time, study time, worship in song time. The church she attends (the one I used to attend) does have care groups in the evening, but I’m not sure if she’s involved in one. We do take time to pray for each other and listen to each other’s concerns, but we also spend a significant amount of time in study - and I’m pretty sure she was aware of this before we started. But your idea does make me wonder, and I think I will mention it to our leader, just in case we’ve got a problem of crossed-expectations.